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I agree that it is tricky. When Everyone is Awesome came out, my friend and I (both Mormon, neither LGBTQ+) had a conversation about it, and both agreed while we don't support LGTBQ+ people church-wise, most people in our church including us, still love and support them. (Sorry I didn't really answer the question, I was just putting in my two cents.)

Yeah, I’m not a big fan of the model, either—I think LEGO could make better things. 😕

Wiz: I shall answer that in PM. I really don't think it's a good idea to talk about it on this forum website, but you can if you like.

I'll keep my answer as concise and adhering to my church's belief as possible, because, growing up in the South, I am not very sympathetic towards LGBTQ+ despite having a sister who oriented herself with that community for quite some time (pretty sure she still does). The LDS religion believes that only "Monogmatic marriage (i.e. single marriage -- one man, one woman) between a man and a woman is ordained of God". We do not believe that God supports same-sex marriage or the LGBTQ+ society, and we do not ordain same-sex marriage eternally (we do not believe that a family under same-sex parents can be sealed together in heaven). We still believe in loving them and allowing them to make their own choices. They are human beings just like the rest of us. They deserve equal rights and expression religiously, politically, and sexually, and they can use their agency for whatever they want. BUT God does not and never has ordained their choices. It is similar to, but not the same as, that of those who partake of alcohol or other substance we do not believe in partaking of. Does that choice make that person necessarily bad? Of course not. They can be an absolutely amazing person in every other sense, but they are doing something against God's will -- everyone does, no matter how holy -- and that is inevitable. However, some people's problems are different, some more serious than others. We believe, as science has discovered, that some people are born with homosexual/bisexual (or even pansexual) feelings; again, some more than others. BUT this may be their weakness that they need to conquer on this earth. We believe that all infirmities and faults will be corrected in heaven, and many of the subject matters of LGBTQ+ are such spiritual faults.

So to answer in short, it is basically what Jalc said: "While we don't support LGTBQ+ people church-wise, most people in our church including us, still love and support them", and we are all taught to love and support them exactly as we would any other person we ever come across. They are equal sons and daughters of God, and they deserve it. Yes, we believe that their sexual orientation is incorrect, and that same-sex marriage and the transgender are not ordained of God, and are against what he teaches -- look at Sodom and Gomorrah for example. But they are his children nonetheless and He loves them exactly -- exactly -- the same as he loves any other heterosexual person that is faithfully in or seeking a marriage that IS ordained of God. People can have tendencies that fall into that of the LGBTQ+ society and not act on them in order to keep God's will. It is the same exact thing that those with unchaste tendencies or unclean sexual thoughts (in other areas) have to do: they have to learn to avoid sexual temptation.

Rubricks - 👍 Good points! Yep, I would agree with most of that.

I edited it a bit to correct some grammar -- I love my typos, don't I? 😄

1 John 4:7 Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God.

Though the bible says things against LGBTQ, (and i don't really support it) we still need to love all people no matter what, as the scripture says.

I'm reposting this with more details, and I remembered some other books. 😃

Books I suggest if you want to learn more about Christianity, are questioning it, or you're an atheist, Mormon, Hindu, Muslim, or anyone looking for answers. And just really good books.

P.S. The ones with an asterisk are ones I've personally read or reading.

  1. *The Holy Bible by God Himself through the disciples and apostles ; ) (I reccomend a life application version.)

  2. *How (Not) to Read the Bible: Making Sense of the Anti-Women, Anti-science, Pro-violence, Pro-slavery and Other Crazy-Sounding Parts of Scripture by Dan Kimball

    • Not the Religious Type: Confessions of a Turncoat Atheist by Dave Schmelzer
  3. *The New Answers Book 1 by Ken Ham and Bodie Hodge

  4. The New Answers Book 2 by Ken Ham and Bodie Hodge

  5. The New Answers Book 3 Ken Ham, general editor

  6. The New Answers Book 4 by Ken Ham and Bodie Hodge

  7. *The Purpose Driven Life: What On Earth Am I Here For? by Rick Warren

  8. *Don't Check Your Brains at the Door by Bob Hostetler and Josh McDowell (I believe also written by a former atheist)

  9. The New Evidence that Demands a Verdict: Evidence I and II fully updated in one volume by Josh McDowell

  10. *Blessed Child by Ted Dekker and Bill Bright

  11. *The Heavenly Man: The Remarkable True Story of Chinese Christian Brother Yun by Brother Yun with Paul Hattaway

  12. *The Narnia Series by C. S. Lewis

  13. Mere Christianity by C. S. Lewis (like Pyro said.)

  14. The Space Trilogy by C. S. Lewis

  15. *The Wingfeather Series by Andrew Peterson

  16. *Wingfeather Tales: Seven Thrilling Stories from the World of Aewiar Andrew Peterson, editor

  17. *The Pilgrim's Progress by John Bunyan

  18. 10 Questions Every Teen Should Ask (and Answer) about Christianity by Rebecca McLaughlin

Pilgrim's Progress is the second most read Christian book other than the bible

The Screwtape Letters by Lewis is interesting. Nice view of how our faults are exploited.

jalc: Yes, the Screwtape Letters are amazing!

The Pilgrim's Progress... is AMAZING. Beautiful allegories.
I thought that I would skip all the "boring talking parts" or at least just skim through them, but I found myself actually reading every single word and easily understanding it! It was so interesting. I loved reading that book. I think I read it when I was thirteen, and I was really only reading it because we had just moved and only the old books and display books were unpacked, but I loved it.
Hehe... I read a LOT of old books that summer. Louisa May Alcott, especially, and lots of old "boy goes on adventure and finds treasure/fights pirates/invents something" books.

Um... tricky issue. It's been a very common phrase, but we need to hate the sin and love the sinner. [You do this with yourself all the time -- after all, why do you hate doing bad things? Because you know you're worth more than that.]
The Church should've been loving everyone. We don't have an excuse, we just failed. But that doesn't mean we can't try again.

[On a side-note, saying anything, even as vague as I've said above is quite possible to get you to lose a job in the future...]

@Tall, old books are fun! Especially old Sci-Fi 😂 it's funny to see what they consider as inventions yet still have things like tape recorders.

Hate the sin love the sinner...

Hamilton

I'm sorry Burr I gotta go

But-

Things are happening over dinner

Pyro: Have you read the Out of the Silent Planet trilogy?

Pyro: I haven't read the 3rd book yet, but I've read the first 2, and love 'em.

Glad to see so much activity here. 😄

Lego_Lover - This was a great idea! Now we can all connect as fellow Christians!! 😄

Reply to @WizardBuilds1's question about what we think about the LGBTQ+ Society ...

Well simply said there is nothing wrong being part of the LGBTQ+ Society if you believe. Because someone that is in that society can be as much of a Christian as us here.

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